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They can be distinguished from each other in a variety of ways, as is apparent on this page. "Anyway, the letters stand for put and take, inclusive: nothing (spin again? about women in the beginning of the 18th century ... Click here to read an enlargement of the text at the bottom of that page. BOTH EXCELLENT CONDITION." Both of them have "SPINIM" brand name on the top near the handle, and patent number 1374243. The Put & Take one has Ts and Ps on the upper level and on the lower level: 0 1 4 A 2 3. I had never seen this before till February 2009 when it went for $225 on e Bay. The bottom half reads STRAI'T, FOUR, FLUSH, TWO, FULL HOUSE, and THREE." The patent number and date on my personal top is very clear: "Patented April 1921 No. Seller says: "UNUSUAL NICKEL PLATED ANTIQUE PUT&TAKE GAMBLING DEVICE . IT MEASURES ABOUT 1 3/8" LONG X 3/4" AT IT'S WIDES POINT" per dealer LAMB 534, May 2011. 2012 as "Vintage Put and Take dice game brass spinning piece. cm: 1.904 w x 2.78 d x 1.648 h in: 0.75 w x 1.094 d x 0.649 h ." I gather the 6 sides are: P1, P2, T1, T2, Todos Ponen (All Put), and Toma Todo (Take All). Like the above one, "Shapeways 3D Printing Service and Marketplace" made on a 3D printer. Seller: "Centermeter: 2.016 w x 3.324 d x 2.016 h ... An 8-sided spinner/top labeled for the game put-and-take. They also sell: "Unlabeled 8-sided spinner with a unique umbrella shape. Sides are labeled as follows: AP = all put, P1 = put 1, P2 = put 2, TA = take all, T1 = take 1, T2 = take 2, and star. Contents are COMPLETE and in excellent condition." Seller says, "Wonderful walking stick cane with a hidden secret, bakelite handle decorated with a white metal 4 leafs-clover ... Vintage / Antique Game ELECTRIC PUT-N-TAKE by Jim Prentice The Electric Game Co. This piece features tin construction with colorful litho throughout showing flags of the world, roulette wheel numbers, a world globe, Put And Take markings, and more.groups (bags) "5" and "7," above, are 6-sided tops, and as such invariably have words on the sides and must be read with the top lying on its side -- the words are lined up with the stem of the put and take top (go in the same direction as/are parallel to the length of the stem) . words/letters read with the stem being upright (invariably, 8-sided put & takes) OR with the stem held horizontally (invariably, 6-sided put & takes). words (eg., "take all") OR letters (eg., "TA") on the sides. smooth handle/stem OR knurled/serrated handle/stem. One of the most surprising (to me) things said there is: "'Put and Take' .... racehorses of the 20th century." See 8 of these tops in original box here. Both the top (much bigger and heavier than most: c. "Also known as "The Sport of Kings," and often linked with gambling, flat racing has been a popular sport for hundreds of years. The Poker one has on the upper level: FULLH, 3, STRT, 4, FLUSH, 2; and on lower level: A K Q J 10 9. It looks nice, but is a TERRIBLE spinner -- it simply hardly ever can be gotten to spin! I soaked it in WD-40, but still could not unscrew it to correct it. The seller described it as: "Bi-level poker top ... I ordered one (July 2013), and it just arrived in a 12" x 12" x 12" box. Per Shapeways: "Dice version of the spinning top game "put and take." One die is labeled the other is labeled . Can be used as a D8 die, or labeled with options for the game "put and take" or "toma todo." Picture here. The star can be used as an extra rule, for example, all take, take one from everyone one, everyone takes one from you, take half, put half, etc. hides 3 dice and one brass put and take, or teetotum spinner, which fit into the handle .... The instructions for all games are printed around the sides, including Roulette, Odd Or Even, Hi-Lo, Play The Flags, Play The Marbles, and Put And Take.
Well, you will be surprised to know that it is one of the very oldest games in the world." To see it, click here and here. Two of the tops are celluloid advertising pieces -- one touts Manbeck's Bread ("A winner everywhere"); the other says "You don't gamble when you buy Trenton Crackers." The white 4-sided one at the bottom is made of ivory. The red one next to it is plastic with a compartment for solid perfume. The patent was made to cover all tops that were bi-level -- two separate rotating parts. This is the first bakelite bi-level POKER top I have ever seen. Dealer said, "2 RARE VINTAGE GAMING GAMBLING BAKELITE PUT & TAKE CARD GAME SPINNERS. patent number for 1921 are 1,364,063 and 1,401,947. For example, the one pictured here shows a queen-high flush. In the picture to the left, note how the side with the star is rounded on the bottom and straight-flat on the top. Gibson, 1946.) Tapping away (or pushing and pulling the handle), the cheat can make other players feed the kitty as often as he chooses, and can win whenever he wants. Here the sides are alternately round and flat on the tops and bottoms of the sides. Or maybe the cheats would have three differenet spinners that they could palm into the game as they wished. About 1-7/16 inch, The right one is a mite longer due to the bigger point/nipple. Although if you keep it in your pocket for a few days it will tarnish and take its newness away. I have had a brass put and take for many years, and played the game since I was 10 years old, previously it belonged to my father. "AP2" - All Pay 2: All players must put 2 into the pot. A LOVELY TRENCH ART STYLE PIECE." Here is a You Tube video of the maufacturing of these items. Here is another of Guss Parkin's creations: a replia of a famous WWI German military Zeppelin shot down near London in 1916, killing the entire crew of 22. Lots of good wishes, Graham." I have used the seller's pictures, one of which shows the top spinning upside down! Dealer said in part: "Unusual Antique brass gambling device called a "Put and Take". This piece has light patina on the brass, and a greenish verdigris on the inside. The six sides in order: T1, AP, T2, P1, TA, and P2. In the picture, you see "P2" and "Todos Ponen" (All Put). Push down on lever and release." There are 8 sections on the large dial. This is the exceedingly rare "Trompoln" Put & Take Spinning Top with launcher. Besides of being used for playing different table games, it can also be used as a traditional spinning top with launcher. This six-sided put and take is made of painted solid wood with water-transfer decal numbers on sides, tinplate "neck" and twisted wire launcher. Pull tabs, spindle tickets and punch boards would be illegal in most places. Note it says "Put or Take." The ones below say "Put 'n' Take and Put-n-Take. These were probably given out as advertisements to induce sales. The top is just 1-3/16" long, the tray is 9" in diameter." It arrived, and I am very happy with it. It actually works, with a "D" battery (which I removed).Game: TEETOTUM -- (Detail from Brueghel's Painting) . By far, the most common rule is for all the players to add one chip to the pot if "O", "All Put," etc. Also included are many put and takes that I do not own, pictures taken from e Bay listings. Look here, here and here, from a site about Spanish language put and takes. As noted elsewhere on this page, it is claimed that the prevalence of crooked Put & Take tops led to the end of the Put & Takes craze after the 1930's. Aluminum mainly, they make a wide variety of modern tops. Their 8-sided one, ink filled engravings, is MS-PT8: 65 grams, aluminum, 2-1/2 inches, spins well. THE DICE IN THIS SET REPRESENT THE FOUR MOST POPULAR STYLES OF DICE IVC HAS TO OFFER AND ALL MADE FROM SOLID BRASS. THESE DICE ARE NOT BRASS PLATED OR PAINTED, THEY ARE 100% REAL CUSTOM MACHINED BRASS. The on on the right appeared on e Bay, Jan 2013, and the seller emailed me that they are being made now by Rose & Pentagram Design,and soldthrough Noble Knight Games. Also, the bottom is rounded, no "nipple" or point to spin on. "Top is NEW 1 and 1/4 inches tall Hand Machined of solid Brass and Polished Made in the U. She sharpened the point *(sanded it down), and that greatly improved its spinning ability. I just received mine in the mail; it spins very poorly. By the way, not shown here, but the jagged line between the "T" and the "A" on the TA side is the signature "Rocky," the nickname of the creator of the top. Originals of these tops are hard to find today, these are made exactly as the originals and after they tarnish, will look exactly like an original does." "Morgan's Revenge, A Pirate Game." Per seller: "This enjoyable and simple game of chance comes with a 6 sided brass top similar to a dreidel, a 16 page booklet including instructions, and replica gold doubloons and pieces of eight. It is small enough to stick in your pocket or in a pouch while wearing your costume. I like it: shiny, heavy 47 grams, 1-3/8" long, get valid spin each time though often a clumsy spin, fun piece, easy to handle. Per dealer, "Made from solid brass, this six-sided Put & Take measures 1.50" long by 7/8" wide. The game finishes when one player has all of the pieces. Great game to have when family comes over for the holidays." Sold at this web site: "Top - Silver with Black Print". The top is stamped, oxidized and then polished but will patina nicely in time." The price for each is $65. Launcher: 12- inches long." Dealer told me, "sides are just numbered from 1 to 6 with "Industria Argentina" over 4 and "Trompolin M. There are 9 different cards/designs, repeated 4 times for each different card -- so 4 x 9 = 36 cards.You can improve/restore the spinning ability of tops. The principle described above applies to another form of Put & Take cheating: the gaffed top is rounded differently on both ends. Also known as PT8-MIL: Seller (on e Bay Sept 2017): "Each of our gambling teetotums are hand turned from a solid brass hex bar making each one unique. YOU ARE PURCHASING A SET OF DICE THAT SCREAM IM SERIOUS ABOUT MY GAMING. THE DICE INCLUDED IN THIS COMBO DEAL ARE AS FOLLOWS: *SET OF TWO SOLID BRASS SPINNING HEX TOP D6 PIP *SET OF TWO 5/8 SOLID BRASS LONG LOG ROLLER D6 PIP *SET OF TWO SOLID BRASS FLOATING D6 PIP *SET OF TWO SOLID BRASS STANDARD D6 PIP Another modern one I saw on e Bay, August 2009. A fun historic game for play at festivals and re-enactments. But the top is difficult to spin properly and consistently. But it is easy to file down the pointy tip to make it spin easily. It features a knurled stem for easy spinning and its heavy 1.6 oz weight [46 grams] will aid in long spin time. "This product is a silver annodized aluminum with black printed letters." "P1" - Put 1: The spinner puts (pays) 1 into the pot. Seller: "the possible outcomes are: T1, T2, P1, P2, WTA, AP2, which translates to: Take 1, Take 2, Put 1, Put 2, All Put 2, and Winner Take All." I have also listed this top on my English-language Put & Take page in the category of Unusual Put & Takes: here. They put out interesting videos showing how they made these tops: click here. Seller says, in Dec 2013, "It has been hand made, not machine made, of brass. I saw these for the first time August 25, 2010, on e Bay in two auctions with starting bids of about $65 each. R." over the rest of numbers." Vintage Children's Put and Take Playing Cards Game, per seller in U. Only three of the designs have words on them: PUT 2, PUT 3, and TAKE 2. Click here to see all 9 different cards and their common back. It notes how some call "profit" a dirty word and want confiscatory taxes. Dealer described it as: "At auction today is a vintage Put and Take game of chance with a Birdseye Maple tray. Put & Takes -- Non-English language vintage Put & Takes (***this is a link to another page***) 4. Everything else: miscellaneous odd Put & Take-related items, but not spinners: bagatelles, pinball machines, playing cards, darts, spinning disks, etc. Rolling: Dice, faceted balls (vintage, not sterling), logs, and barrels -- put and take-related 9.Put and Take is one of many forms of Teetotums, which are any gaming spinning top.I have never seen an 8-sided one with words on the sides, just T1, TA, P2, etc.... in group "1" and "3" the tops are "bi-level." That is, there are two independently moving parts. ""Put and Take," otherwise known as Sanfarian, is a new game from America that has captured London. Note that the cheating top is $5.00 and the "fair top" (i.e., honest) is only $0.50. (The rounded bottom panels must have been shaved in a certain way to produce the desired results.) , a leading Las Vegas supplier, mainly in the 1950s and 60s. Horse-racing, British Simlar to the above one, but different. lower section 6 names,in this order-------alan breck, orpheus, yutoi, soranus leighton, tishy. IT MEASURES 1.75 INCHES LONG AND 0.80 INCHES WIDEST. bottom level, in order: nine, ace, king, queen, jack, ten. Measures 10 1/4" in diameter and stands 5 1/2" high. Nine "sides" or commands in this order: take all, put three, take two, all put, take three, put one, re-spin (spin again), take one, put two. Box is bent out of shape and had some water damage in one corner.
In "1" the P's and T's are on the top level and the amounts (1, 2, 3, etc.) are on the lower level. In group "3," generally the pay-off odds are indicated in the top level, and the name of a horse is on the bottom level; the horse-betting ones have the name of famous race horses and were copyrighted in the 1920's. It is played with a tiny metal spinning top, having six or eight sides. While Man-O-War and Zev were born in 19, the others were born 1938 to 45. ZEV- became the greatest money-winning racehorse in history. Pillory, 1922 winner of the Preakness and Belmont Stakes ... Lucky Hour, Lexington Stable winner at Bellmont and Aqueduct .. Bunting, Whitney Stables winner at Saratoga and Belmont. I suppose it could "favor" the "banker" if the bottoms of the sides were rounded differently and the "banker" was in control of the spinning, so he could spin either clockwise or counter-clockwise, depending on which horse had the larger bets. The sides are stamped with odds and the three inner spinners have the names of nine horses: Yutoi/Ira/Scamp/Cusht/Argo/Varzy/Munia/Bucks/Petrea." I wonder if they are real horses' names -- I can't find anything about them, other than Yutoi. ORIGINAL PATINA, WEIGHT: 43 GRAMS." French language. Engraved on the top of the spinner near the handles, it says "VANLAERE. I bought one in July 2017 for $130 posstage: 22 grams, 1-1/8 inch, hardly spins. The teams named were all cup winners/finalists in the 1920s/30s, so I guess it dates from that era. British seller old_devil says, "Teetotum type spinner, game unknown. As you twist the battery tower, it is neat the way the light below lights up each marble as it passes by. There is a small light bulb attached to that movable metal bar, which is attached to the battery. Darts have been colored black and the rubber heads are broke.
The heyday was especially seen in 1921 and 22 (I refer you again to the timeline.) There is the 1921 silent movie "Put and Take", a 1921 "Put and Take" Broadway show and song, at least five American patents regarding Put and Take taken out between 19, and even a 1929 "Put and Take" jazz swing composition. from the English and American gambling scene is that too many loaded tops were being used. Players ante into a pot and take turns spinning the top. Credit: from a post October 19, 2005 at this Flickr Yahoo site. More pictures of this top here -- shows the bi-levels more clearly. Dealer in UK says, "AN ORIGINAL CROWN AND ANCHOR GAME. GIBSON & SONS "INTERNATIONAL SERIES" MADE IN ENGLAND. THE BOTTOM LEVEL IS FIXED TO THE MIDDLE SPINDLE, WHILE THE MIDDLE AND TOP LAYERS ARE FREE FROM THE SPINDLE AND SPIN SEPARATELY AND AS YOU CAN SEE THE TWO TOP LAYERS CAN BE SPUN SEPARATELY ON BALL BEARINGS. 19735/50 APPROX TOTAL LENGTH - 3.8CM (38MM)."The top is marked "Spinpool Pat Appd For". Similar to the bi-level tops (horses, poker) made by the company that made the "Odds-On" tops, but nothing engraved on the top of the top near the handle. The scanned instructions and catalog page are from the K. In both pictures, notice how the tops on the right are shaved on the lower right side of the "T2" face, and the tops on the left are shaved on the lower left side of of the "T2" face. "Letters & numerals are hand written by seller using with a wood burning tool. Okay, I'll even sell it to anyone else who might want it so don't feel left out. It's an ivory colored 12 sided (D12 to the gamer community) 16mm die and the sides, in no particular order, are engraved as follows: Put 1, Put 2, Put 3, All Put, Put All, Lose Turn Take 1, Take 2, Take 3, All Take, Take All, Roll Again" Modern.
Listen to this grand old 1922 English music hall song on You Tube, "Put and Take," sung by Harry Fay. In other words, there was a great deal too much putting by novices and taking by cheats." But Put & Take exists today. Justin Michell Kevin Cook Gerrit Veldhoen You Tube videos about Put & Takes and other spinning tops: fine 7.5 minute video showing wide variety of tops and spinners, even a few Put & Takes. app for i Phone/i Pod to put your own sides/commands on a digital spinner, thus making your own game. short video of a bi-level Crown & Anchor spinner in action. If it landed T1, T2 or T3, the player who spun it would win (take) 1, 2 or 3 chips, respectively, from the pot. I think it is played like the poker bi-level top above. Click here for a picture of the original colorful box and the instructions. The sender said, " It's from 1982 and was made by a company called BOJO's. HAS A GREEN CLOTH BOARD WITH MAKERS NAME ON BOTTOM. THE DICE (top) IS OF A COMPOSITE MATERIAL (probably plastic). I have been unable to track down the makers or anything similar. Knowing this would give a favorable percentage to the user; he wouldn't always win on every spin, but would come out a winner in the long run. The "takes" are opposite each other (for example, opposite the "T2" is a "T3"). Per seller: "High quality solid brass spin game, lettering is engraved and painted. "AP = All Pay TA = Take All P1 = Pay One T1 = Take One P2 = Pay Two T2 = Take Two" Excellent spinner -- very easy to spin, and spins very well. Seller says, "spinners made from the finest quality aircraft grade stainless steel which is machined using state of the art CNC turning centers and precision balanced for a piece that will spin perfectly and last forever, with a finish so bright and shiny you will need your sunglasses! "A gaffed gambling device increases your odds to 90% accuracy!
Look here 1921 New York Times news story of Women's Christian Temperance Union denouncing Put and Takes by name. The cheat pushes the central spindle up or down as he passes the top to a player. Also available as eight sided and ten sided Put & Take. The top is stamped, oxidized and then buffed with steel wool to lighten up the high spots. Manually machined from 1/2" solid brass hex and tipped with a silicon nitride ball bearing. Seller, historyfanatic, from Charleston IN, said, "While this top is made to replicate an original IVORY top, ours is reproduced in a resin-based artificial ivory. "Sure this game is available elsewhere but, as a bonus, we actually throw in 4 extra coins, so you get a total of 16 coins instead of the standard 12. We offer even more coins that are great to add or add replica coins from your own collection. Per the instruction sheet: "lose spin" means the spin goes to next player clockwise (to left); "put" means each player puts a chip (or amount) into pot; "take" means the spinner takes the pot; and "to decrease spinning time of the spinner, spin on a paper or cocktail napkin." First use and trade mark registered in 19, respectively. "P2" - Put 2: The spinner puts (pays) 2 into the pot. Unusual in that the letters are upright, not sideways. Gamp Sports "Spin & Win." Per Gamps: "Gamp Sports is excited to re-introduce this classic Spin & Win game with a top made from solid brass. COMMEMORATING THE ROYAL WELSH FUSILIERS AND THE BATTLE OF THE SOMME 1916. In June and early July 1916, ten battalions of the Royal Welch Fusiliers (RWF) became part of the British Army's huge concentration of men and firepower which, together with the French Army on the right flank, was to assault the German front line in Northern France. Per seller:"This listing is for one put and take spinner with carrying case. There is an emphasis on balance for a great spin, it is tough and has a personality of its own. Seller ID 1knifeguy1 (West Coast Trading Post) of Fairfield, CA, calls them "vintage" brass Put and Takes and lists them many times. PLAYING CARDS ANTIQUE CARD GAME VERY RARE GIVANTAKE PUT TAKE WITH CARDS 1910 A RARE COMPLETE SET OF 20 CARDS TO PLAY THE GAME OF GIVANTAKE A CARD GAME THAT IS PLAYED IN THE SAME MANNER AS A PUT AND TAKE SPINNER TO BE PLAYED BY BETWEEN 3 AND 8 PERSONS AN EARLY VERY EASY TO PLAY GAMBLING GAME CARDS IN VERY GOOD CONDITION ALL SHOWN IN PHOTOS COMPLETE WITH USUALLY MISSING PACKET WHICH IS IN VERY GOOD CONDITION IT HAS THE RULES OF PLAY PRINTED TO THE REVERSE."Put and Take advertising sign. Taped to the back of the sign is the profit chart per set of 1200 "tickets" on a spindle. On the last page the booklet asks, "where is the money going to come from for the operation and expansion of business? " Put & Take with Spinning Tray -- I bought this on e Bay Sept. The little brass spinning top has six sides marked Put One, Put Two, All Put, Take One, Take Two, and Take All.
1921 Illustrated London News article -- a full page picture and article entitled "PUT AND TAKE CRAZE : A SUBSITUTE FOR PITCH AND TOSS." It says there that "Put and Take ... 1921 "Ripley's Believe or Not" column on current Put & Take rage -- it had some wrong historical information, but said, "Of course you play that new game of the spinning top called Put and Take? The dark one near the upper right is a cube-shaped metal Put and Take. The two at the lower right and lower left have internal spinning dials. Guaranteed old and original." Per seller: Vintage Bakelite Top ... The white and red parts are bakelite - The spin seperately from each other so the final outcome is always random - The blue handle is wood with some wear to the paint - The markings on the white part are P and T and on the red you have 0 1 4 A 2 3 "It is marked "Spinim" on top with a patent number. Thus, all the players could spin the top clockwise, but would get different results depending which way the spindle was pushed. Here the body of the apinner is not rounded on both ends (as described in the row above), nor is it rounded on even one end (as with the red tops above). Seller says: "As usual it has the following markings: Put One, Take One, Put Two, Take Two, Take All, All Put. He states in e Bay auction, "This listing is for the Classic six sided solid brass spinning top game Put and Take. These can be spun as tops on a smooth surface with a little practice, but are designed to have a short spin time to keep the game moving. "$12.00 plus shipping." There is also a deluxe edition in a tin box, for a little more money; click here to see it. Manufacturer: Dan Kroll Industries Corporation, Billings, Montana. Pend" (for patent pending) is etched on top of top near handle. the casino game with a message: 'what goes around comes around.'" Comes with: put and take spinner, 4 colors of plastic common chips, purple sachel bag, instruction sheet and original box. Seller in UK says, "Modern Copy of the 1930's Brass Put & Take Spinning Top Dice Gambling Game." On e Bay (March 2015) he starts auction at $22 plus $6 shipping to U. "T1" - Take 1: The spinner takes (gets paid) 1 from the pot. This unique 8-sided version adds excitement with each spin. This offensive was to become known officially as the First Battle of the Somme. THE POCKET GAMING COIN TUBE / VESTA MATCH SAFE & STRIKER COMES WITH THE SOLID BRASS SPINNER GAME. These spinners are hand machined by my husband (Jim) from solid brass stock. The letters and numbers are then hand stamped onto each of the 6 sides of the piece. Each spinner comes with a free spun aluminum storage container (color may vary) that can be attached to a keychain. " Sold by the maker, in Pueblo, Colorado, for $32.50. With a little practice it can also be spun UPSIDE DOWN!! The dimensions are approximately 30mm long and 15mm wide at widest point. I live on a bush property with a small solar power system and make the spinners myself. Also called vintage and listed many times by the same seller. The top of the machine says "Test Your Skill For." That is just an attempt to call it a non-gambling game, which would be illegal in most places at that time. Apparently you put the finger of one hand through the loop and quickly push down that yellow piece with the other hand, and the blue piece is pushed out spinning. The player would have to unwrap the ticket to see the results. Per UK seller: "A vintage, hand held, plated brass, Mechanical Put & Take Game. It is very well engineered & is in lovely condition for its age."Antique Pocket Knife Shop Display Advertising card with Put & Take Brand. Picture to the left is label on back of store display of the "Put and Take Brand" pocket knives. The seller, in Australia, described it as, "vintage folding knife ...'Put and Take Knife ' Germany, Richartz Bros & Son. Middle ( handle ) 7.5cm x 1.5cm." Inspirational booklet. It describes Put and Take as the "biggest game in the country," and "when it rolls over and stops, you do what it says." It uses the game as a parable for life, and a jumping off point for its economic message. " But it can't come from government because "Where do they get their money? The Birdseye Maple tray is made of one piece of wood with nice graining and a raised edge that keeps the top from spinning off.
According to the Encyclopedia Britannica article on teetotums, "the hexagonal (six-sided) teetotum was known to the ancient Greeks and Romans." The earliest teetotums were used as a substitute for dice, so the sides of the top would be numbered, usually 1 to 6. Two other nice/unusual features: (1) the upper level has single numbers, not odds (like 5-1, 3-2,), and (2) lovely spiral design on the finial (handle) (ususally it is plain or has parallel lines or a diamond design).